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Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:28 pm PostPost subject: Just a few Alsetalokin quotes
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A trip down memory lane, just to refresh a few memories.

There was a time when Al seemed to take the WhipMag concept very seriously and even appeared to be excited about it. That seems to have changed a bit in recent years, I don't know why.

A recent post of his motivated me to trawl through the old threads and dig up some of his more memorable WhipMag quotes. For a more complete list, see the following posts, but a couple of my favorites are:

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"I am amazed. Overconfident's design comes closer to "working" than any magnet motor design I have yet encountered (and I have seen a few, believe me.)
The little test jig I built is already pretty amazing, even without the mechanism for latching the stator magnets."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=3#Item_14

"Also I explained a bit of what was going on to the boss, who also has an interest in these matters. He laughed, but it was very hard to pull him away from the Test Jig #2 assembly. He was fascinated..."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=3#Item_28

"I am already able to generate the kind of data with this rig, that makes people believe that PMMs might be possible.
To wit: rotor drag is inversely related to rotor RPM, at least over a limited speed range in preliminary testing."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=4#Item_19

"Overconfident's idea is the best one I've seen, and I've seen a few. And I've built a few, and tested a few more, in my tenure in various labs investigating these things. It is much more plausible than Orbonics
...
Now, overconfident has designed something, and I am building it as best I can. I believe in the second law of thermodynamics, I don't believe that energy can be extracted from a gamma atmosphere, I don't believe in Yahweh or centrifugal force. But I am impressed enough by this design to give it an honest try.

Whether it works or not, we are doing the whole thing completely out in the open, on OC's initiative. Perhaps the whole thing may be instructive to some."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=4#Item_24
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:30 pm PostPost subject:
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"I still think your general idea has merit"
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=58463&page=9#Item_36

"I do like the idea of the springs allowing the angle of the rotor magnets to change--that's an idea I haven't seen before.
...
I'm still not sure about how to implement the rotation of the stator magnets--I just can't quite visualize them rolling on their own, and any linkage I can imagine will be a loser, energetically speaking..."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=2#Item_25

"... but I'm still not sure how to get the "stator" magnets to wind up driving the rotor, rather than the other way around (which of course won't work)."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=2#Item_30


"I have already discovered a lot of interesting behaviors with this little rig. Nothing too encouraging, I'm afraid, but pretty cool nevertheless."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=2#Item_46

"Note especially that the 834s do rotate like OC predicted, if the magnets on the rotor are not too far away.
I can almost get the rotor to spin all the way around, by "driving" just one of the 834s by hand."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=2#Item_49

"I mentioned some time ago that a scientist in our lab had made a similar design to OC's idea. He finally dug up a decent drawing, and so I photographed it and posted it here."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=3#Item_5

"I intuitively feel that if anything like this is going to work it must have the odd/even asymmetry of magnet numbers, as your design does but this one doesn't."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=3#Item_7

"I am amazed. Overconfident's design comes closer to "working" than any magnet motor design I have yet encountered (and I have seen a few, believe me.)
The little test jig I built is already pretty amazing, even without the mechanism for latching the stator magnets."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=3#Item_14

"I have confirmed--the rotating magnets rotate 2 full turns for each full revolution of the rotor in the alternating config, and the rotating magnets rotate 4 full turns for each revolution of the rotor in the chained config"
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=3#Item_21

"Also I explained a bit of what was going on to the boss, who also has an interest in these matters. He laughed, but it was very hard to pull him away from the Test Jig #2 assembly. He was fascinated..."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=3#Item_28

"I think I see where you intend the latch to occur, but wait till I have a chance to post photos showing the rotation of the various parts, with some reference marks, so you can see exactly where, on this jig.
...
It's fascinating to put the field-viewing film over the assembly and watch the interplay of the fields as everything is rotating."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=3#Item_34

"... and I have already been thinking for some time about the hinged-sprung magnets, so that's no problem. I get it...mostly."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=3#Item_46

"I am already able to generate the kind of data with this rig, that makes people believe that PMMs might be possible.
To wit: rotor drag is inversely related to rotor RPM, at least over a limited speed range in preliminary testing."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=4#Item_19

"Overconfident's idea is the best one I've seen, and I've seen a few. And I've built a few, and tested a few more, in my tenure in various labs investigating these things. It is much more plausible than Orbonics
...
Now, overconfident has designed something, and I am building it as best I can. I believe in the second law of thermodynamics, I don't believe that energy can be extracted from a gamma atmosphere, I don't believe in Yahweh or centrifugal force. But I am impressed enough by this design to give it an honest try.

Whether it works or not, we are doing the whole thing completely out in the open, on OC's initiative. Perhaps the whole thing may be instructive to some."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=4#Item_24

"I decided to try to scrounge enough material to build a bigger diameter version, after all, as per OC's comments.
But first I want to try a different number of magnets on the existing 13x8 baseplate.
We know the rotor magnets act in pairs so there must be an even number of them. The Stator magnets should be odd number, if not prime. And I think the two numbers should be relatively prime, as well."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=4#Item_46

"I think you are right about the latching mechanism--for the first attempts they should definitely be on the stationary part if possible."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=4#Item_50

"I will be making some ratchet-type teeth in the OD of the Delrin cylinders for the latches to grab. I think--I haven't tried this idea yet."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=5#Item_30

"That's an interesting idea.

But before we go further, I have an important question for all the intellectual property law experts who are reading this.

Under the TOS of the Steorn Forum, is it possible that anything we are discussing here, like the possible specifics of construction of a possible Magnet Perpetual Motion Machine, or a generator confabulated therefrom, would become the legal property of Steorn?? ?? ??
If so we would be well advised to remove ourselves to another virtual location."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=5#Item_37

"So, hypothetically speaking if I were to get the rotor spinning at, say, 400 rpm by spinning it by hand; then quickly spin a stator magnet in the same direction by flipping it with a finger, could there be some resonant alignment of the fields that would make it "catch hold" and continue spinning at 1600 rpm (4 x rotor rpm), both rotor and stator magnet going clockwise?
Now suppose this relationship continued locked in phase as the assembly gradually accelerates until reaching a maximum measured rpm of 1904 rpm for the rotor, and 7633 rpm for the stator magnet, both rotating clockwise."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=5#Item_42

"It does indeed happen, spinning initially by hand, just as I have described. The numbers reflect actual laser tachometer measurements."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=5#Item_45

"The slowest they will remain in "opposite synch" seems to be around 1160 rpm (or about 290 rpm for the rotor). As the system brakes from a high-rpm run, the stator magnet loses synch and either stops dead or starts rotating in the "natural" or gear-like direction, but now at 2 x rotor rpm rather than 4x as before. Once this happens the rotor can no longer sustain rapid rotation and coasts to a stop.
I can start the thing by spinning the rotor to 300-400 rpm (that's as fast as I seem to be able to get it going by hand) and then flipping a stator magnet. It usually takes 5-10 tries, and several re-spins of the rotor, before it "catches" and the magnets go into "opposite synch" or whatever.
It's pretty scary when the thing gets up to max rpm. The little stator magnet really whiizzes at 7600 rpm. The first time I wasn't sure if it would stay together, or punch a hole in the ceiling, or what.
I got pretty excited, I must admit."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=5#Item_46

"@OC, believe me I have done what you describe, in many possible variations, for hours on end. That's why I built these gadgets in the first place. I've even taken them out on the subway and the bus a few times.
Nothing I saw or felt would have enabled me to predict this behavior of spinning non-gear-like and causing such rapid rotation. I expected, if anything, a rather stately motion like a miniature Ferris wheel or something, but this phenomenon is in a completely different class altogether.
I think it's time to abandon the idea of mechanical latches. We seem to have progressed beyond that point, to where electronic latching will be needed. Maybe also some kind of field shaping coils a la Helmholz.

(ETA I discovered the reverse-spin phenomenon completely by accident--I was trying to see if I could get the magnet to re-engage in the gear-wise direction, flipping it over and over, until it finally took off and scred the crap out of me. I even repeated the thing several times before I realized I had been flipping the magnet the wrong direction and when it engaged it was spinning backwards, ie clockwise like the rotor.)"
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=6#Item_10

"...boss thinks I'm nuts...because Permanent Magnet Motors Can't Possibly Work (PMMCPW!)"
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=6#Item_11

"Q: "P.S. I also want to confirm you are saying the rotor is accelerating from say 400 rpm up to 1160 rpm by only reversing the spin of one stator magnet."

A: I'll bet you do. So do I."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=6#Item_23
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:31 pm PostPost subject:
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"I have determined that a slightly more sedate speed is better than trying for all-out. The unit runs well at a stator rpm of around 5000 (hence rotor around 1250). Yesterday at the higher speeds I wasn't able to maintain synch for more than a few minutes, but now that I figured out how to regulate things a little better (viscous damping seems to be the key, but I suppose a mechanical slip-friction in lieu of latches would also work) the slower speed seems better behaved. Just now I got a run of almost--well, I better keep the run times under my hat for now, until I can confirm the absence of external driving fields, but let's just say they are amazingly long. WIth no stator magnets in place, spinning up the rotor by hand to about 375 rpm, it takes about 2 minutes for it to stop spinning. With the setup I am experimenting with now, the system maintains a constant high rpm for a long time before the stator magnets "drop out" and the rotor slows to a stop.
The really difficult part is getting several stator magnets to start up in the anti-gearwise motion. I have found so far that the best set-up is 3x8 on the 13-hole baseplate, so the 3 stator magnets are not symmetrically arrayed. If I am lucky and can get all three going, that seems to be the best for duration."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=6#Item_28

"I will continue to work on what I'm doing with the OC MPMM, and some of it is pretty exciting right now---I think things will really "take off" once I incorporate the pivots on the rotor magnets..."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=6#Item_33

"... there are certain details of the configuration that I have only recently discovered are important, and I am still experimenting with those, so I haven't mentioned them.
Plus I have not yet been able to scan the EM environment to rule out the "RB Effect"--there could conceivably be some oscillating EM field that is coupling with the apparatus to produce the anomalous effects that I am (hypothetically, allegedly) seeing."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=6#Item_34

"All right, I made some slight mods today and then tonight I've been doing some more testing. I'm pretty shaky right now, it's a big adrenalin rush, already the idiots are coming out of the woodwork, I expect this thread to be infected at any time.

First, the spacing between the stator magnets and the rotor is critical. With the layout I've got, 5 mm is the magic dimension. At 6 mm, the magnets lose synch. At less than 4 mm, air resistance between the parts seems to inhibit the free rotation of the stator magnet assembly. That's from the outside of the holder to the outer edge of the rotor (not to the rotor magnets).

Seecond, not all magnet/bearing pairs will produce the effect. I have 15 of the magnets, and 13 of the bearings. I have not tried all possible combinations of these, obviously. But of the 13 assembled magnet/bearing pairs, 3 don't seem to work at all, 2 are fairly easy to get started, and the rest are somewhere in between. Even the "easy" ones usually require several tries before successful engagement. I have blisters on my fingers from spinning stuff over and over and over.

Third, the relative height of the stator and rotor magnets seems important. I don't know if it's because of my particular geometry or whether it is critical to the effect itself, but the magnets shouldn't be in the same plane--that is, I am getting best results when the rotor magnets are rotating in a plane that is just slightly higher than the tops of the stator magnets, rather than down and centered vertically.

Fourth, I have been trying to get three stators spinning, but it turns out that 2 can spin gear-wise on their own, and the third is finger-flipped antigearwise, and when it synchs and the rpms go up, the other two stators can actually be stopped, and the rpms will go up even more!

I know I'm not being very clear about all this--it's pretty exciting to say the least. Next step is to see if I can detect any stray oscillating EM fields (the RB effect) with this little cheapo E-Field meter..."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=7#Item_7

"@Evolve: Every word I'm posting is the truth. I might be wrong, in fact I hope I am.
All the data is real. It might be wrong, but it's really data, taken to the best of my ability with the instruments at hand.
Obviously I have constructed a real device, it's not virtual, I suppose you've seen the pictures.
I have the skinned knuckles to prove it, the blood's certainly real.
Maybe the sweat and tears, too.

Don't forget, OC saw this design in a dream, and I discovered this interesting behavior totally by accident--I was trying to flip the damn magnet the other way but I was so, shall we say, distracted at the time, that I didn't realize which way I was flipping it."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=7#Item_10

"(ETA The mod I did today had to do with getting the rotor mounted on much better bearings. Now if I only could follow OC's suggestion and get some high quality non-magnetic bearings for the stators...it would sure cut down on the noise. The unit is almost totally silent--except for the damn bearing chatter from the cheapo skate-betty bearings I'm using...)"
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=7#Item_17

"I'm not even sure what I'm seeing is real, yet. The whole basement seems awash in EM: according to my cheapo little meter I should be expiring in autistic convulsions just from walking into the kitchen, and when the MPMM is running I have to back up 2 or 3 meters before the meter's red light goes out."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=7#Item_19

"I need to get the thing running in the screen room with some heavy equipment pointed at it. That will take a few days; I need to wait until the boss is distracted somehow, because there's a bunch of junk, I mean obsolete experimental apparatus, being stored in there now and I will have to move it out..."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=7#Item_25

"I keep losing track of the run times--I'll walk away or go grab a beverage, and it will be stopped by the time I recover my train of thought and go look. Therefore they are longer than my attention span, by definition."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=8#Item_1

"At the risk of starting a brouhaha, I have posted a video of the stator magnet behavior. I will only leave this video up for a short time.
Everything you see is real."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=8#Item_11

"Note: Obviously the OC MPMM video is premature. Certain other posters have been saying unkind and ignorant things about me, and about this joint project with OC. So this video is in some sense a rebuttal to those unkind and ignorant statements."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=8#Item_15

"OC has posted some drawings and simulations of the original design and some alternatives, as well as the basic motions, and / has made some really neat animations showing field interactions.
I am hoping that someone will use some sophisticated mag model software to illustrate just how the non-gearwise rotation synchrony is achieved. I just can't seem to wrap my mind around that.
But in spite of that, when I accepted what my eyes were telling me, I realized that the performance could be increased by adding just the barest retardation to the driving stator magnet--really an extension of OC's latch concept, but something that could work at higher speeds without extracting (or adding!) energy from the system, like an electromagnetic latch or damper might. So once again, serendipity operated, and I discovered that the aluminum alloy dampers did the trick--at least they seem to help."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=8#Item_45
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:32 pm PostPost subject:
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"@OC: I think the rotation rate will actually help the pivots move as we want them to, perhaps requiring a spring for return, but that's OK because that energy is stored and will be returned later in the cycle."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=9#Item_1

"OC's design is nifty, unique, and fascinating. That's why I started to play with it.
I have repeatedly asked folks to calm down, I haven't had the chance to eliminate a bunch of things, I regret having posted the video, but I was so pissed off at Omnibus that I couldn't help myself. Now everybody thinks we'll be driving around in OCMPMM-powered cars next year. Forget about it!
It's interesting, it's anomalous, it's tantalizing, but it isn't the answer to our prayers."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=10#Item_26

"Please, no theorizing until we know the facts.
It spins, we don't know why, it's probably a worse mistake than even Steorn made.
Later I will be able to explore the issue further."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=10#Item_45

"Connecting the magnets together by a belt or a band is not a good idea--in fact I believe it is why other designs of this type have failed. But thanks, RB, for the suggestion, and keep them coming.

I reiterate: Do Not Get Excited. What I am seeing is, with 99.999 percent probability, an artifact."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=12#Item_14

"I can get the rotor spinning to between 350 and 400 rpm by the usual hand-push. With no stator magnets installed, and starting the timer as the rotor slows thru 1250 rpm, it takes then almost exactly 2 minutes to come to a stop. With stator magnets installed but not spinning, it slows a lot quicker than that. With the bearings on the stators cranked right down so they cannot move even to vibrate, the rotor now has a very coggy feel but goes back to taking nearly 2 minutes, depending on where the stator magnets are "set" in rotation.
It is only after getting the "middle magnet" to spin anti-gearwise that the unit starts spinning for longer times, or accelerating.
I think the two "idler" stator magnets are helpful in getting the third one to spin anti-gearwise, but they are being driven by the rotor, hence subtracting energy from it. Once they stop, that drain isn't there, or not as much, so the rotor speeds up, under the influence of the driving stator magnet, until air resistance and bearing chatter make the speed top out.

But of course that's impossible, or at least highly unlikely.
MPMMCPW.
Dammit."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=12#Item_28

"It is even more shocking than it appears.

Even so-called "hard scientists" are coming up with outlandish theories and complicated explanations for whatever is going on.
Yet I have repeatedly said that this kind of thing is completely inappropriate at this time. I myself have not been able to rule out artifact from the environment, I'm just spinning magnets around. The famous video doesn't even show the complete cycle, and just because I got it to sort-of work in two different places provides evidence of nothing, except maybe for the cause of my throbbing headaches (from stray EM from whatever source.)
...
There is no possibility that there is any "overunity" going on in the current configuration, or probably any configuration, of the OC MPMM. It does some interesting things, which WHEN WILDLY EXTRAPOLATED could be interpreted as OU.
But at this point such extrapolation is UNWARRANTED."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=13#Item_34

"My strategy has been to use the fingers to get both parts spinning, and to hope that they will synch as they both slow down thru the critical rpm range which I believe is about 300-250 rpm on the rotor."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=14#Item_10

"I rigged a model airplane propeller directly on the rotor shaft. Not very well, I can't guarantee it isn't slipping a little bit.
It makes it much harder to start, for sure. Especially reaching under to spin the stator magnet.

But once it starts, it looks like the max RPM is down around 875 rpm at the prop, if I can trust the tach. Can't read anywhere else, like the stator magnet, because the prop is in the way. But I'm sure the usual 4-1 relationship holds.

It's not making much of a breeze, the prop is a puller so in the current spin direction it's "pulling" the air from around the rotor and pushing it upwards, so most of its intake is blocked. But the breeze is easily perceptible.

The prop is GWS EP-1080, 25.5 cm from tip to tip"
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=14#Item_13

"Yes, it will do without the idlers, but is more difficult. I know they are doing something because of the way they behave when stopped."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=14#Item_20

"I believe OC's theory about the bearings distorting the field, thus causing the offset required in my unit."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=14#Item_31

"It is really hard to get anti-gearwise synch at high speeds in my unit.

Looks like there may be some magnet spacing problems too but OC will chime in on that, I hope."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=14#Item_37

"... the only things that make sense to me is that it is picking up energy from somewhere else, possibly thru the "RB effect", or that it is running on stored energy somehow. Could it be sequestering some kinetic energy from the manual spins somewhere? I doubt it. So there must be some unobservable element that I haven't found, that must be correlated with the anti-gearwise rotation of the stator magnet, which can be readily observed."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=15#Item_4

"@OC, 1) no not yet, will need to bring the non-contact pyrometer home for that test.
2) I remember, no, I haven't dared to budge the rotor magnets. I know if I do it will never work again.

@Jag: yes, the prop represents a load, as you say a slight one. The only difference (other than being a lot harder to start with the load coupled) is that the max rpm is lower, just as you would expect if there was only a small and limited amount of power available.
I'm telling you, no free lunch. If the rpm stayed the same under the load, then I would start getting excited for sure."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=15#Item_8

"Even if it is somehow powering itself, which it cannot be, the power is tiny compared to what you would need even to light an LED."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=15#Item_9

"I fall asleep and when I wake up it's stopped. I just don't know how long it will run. The three-hour figure is an estimation, I didn't notice the time exactly when I started it. Sometimes I just can't get it started at all and I don't know why. Maybe they've turned off the Jacuzzi upstairs or something.
...
Some scientist, huh! Can't even stay awake to finish an experiment. Sometimes I amaze myself."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=15#Item_15

"One bit of kit that I don't have readily available is a shaft torque encoder like Steorn used. I have spoken earlier about designing and constructing and calibrating an eddy-current damping-coupled pony brake dynamometer, that would allow the appropriate measurement to be made.
Or I might rip apart an old VW speedometer, if I can find one in the local junkyard. It has all the components and all I'd have to do would be to hook it up and calibrate it with a known torque source.
I think. Maybe."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=15#Item_17

"OK, at great cost to the fingers of my left hand (I for sure don't have the coordination to wrap and pull a cord left-handed)---
Yes, it runs counterclockwise. If anything a bit more smoothly than clockwise. As far as I can tell it doesn't care which way it goes--everything seems the same, except maybe the rpms are a tad higher."
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=15#Item_28
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:33 pm PostPost subject:
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"@OC: I think the rotation rate will actually help the pivots move as we want them to, perhaps rpms are a tad higher."
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Hi OS, an exciting idea!
Great performance!
because I understand bad Englishlang and my attempts to make a compendium of everything that is commented on Al
were very poor.
Again I say opinion.
I know from what I have read that it is needed very short and very powerful impulces (for machines with coils as Orbo, Depew, Inkomp)
I know it must be made less forward.Da And be filed shortly before saturation,
I want to say before the peak congestion.
I am ashamed, but I must admit that until today I realized saw in reading posts - Al satellites rotate counterclockwise.
And finally: I think that the role of this instant and powerful impulce the wheel play of Al saturation are the steel spindles of Stator rings.
I even have a picture with such an assumption.
I showed here some on my Flikr .
I saw the post. Of those comments which you have shown. It consisted in supposing that even can be done so that the rotors-satellites are not rotate.
Maybe all this is a stupid ugly fun of Al. - Have a hidden motor and so on.
But I think it is pretty strange behavior in the Al time .. Even I think that Al and Orbo know something but did not say. Paranoia chase me anymore.
Exuse about my so long and some mizundertanding post.
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So now exactly why do we need a thread memorializing a lying, narcissistic, self aggrandizing hoaxer? Just wondering. Sad
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So now exactly why do we need a thread memorializing a lying, narcissistic, self aggrandizing hoaxer? Just wondering. :(


It's not a memorial. I was just trying to note the change in tune between then and now.
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Well Oc when you put it all in context, it seems like its enough to get another round of builds going. =]
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There was a pic of Al's whip running and the meter reading about 5000 rpm, but my question on that pic is, where are the Al speed dampers? From what I remember, without them it went to 8000 rpm and lost sync. But in that pic it look as if to show a constant speed. Why snap it on the climb and at that particular rpm?

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I think Im going to open a thread on my mag motor I spoke to you about OC.
I had shut it down for some time due to finally realizing that magnets may have to be made or found of certain shapes that allow continuity in operation. And I worked it out as to the possible costs and time for multiple rebuilds was a large obstacle for me.
But at this time I just want to throw it out there to get some other perspectives on it.

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I just want to throw it out there to get some other perspectives on it.

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Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:53 am PostPost subject:
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Magluvin wrote:

I just want to throw it out there to get some other perspectives on it.

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Go for it!


I agree:)
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Magluvin,

Please do. Looks like you have something going on. I tried something similar to wriggle the stator using gears and struts, much like a train's wheels work. No dice. I'd like to see more detail.

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http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9103.msg239046#msg239046

Thanks Dif. Its different and more to be discovered.

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