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Fri May 01, 2009 3:44 am PostPost subject:
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@Phil, no worries mate, I was off making an OU video for OC.

Sorry if the math seems new, I borrowed it from Prof. Lewin at MIT in his 1999 Lectures. One of the issues with Cloud Chambers has always been the decay interaction with the medium and the types of particles under observation. This is especially true when the particles are the result of kinetic reactions coupled with dual polarities. Very few of the recorded tracks involve magnetostatic fields, but instead are complex composites of multiple dynamic charge and magnetic interactions coupled with kinetic transfers of energy. Thankfully, electrons are quite dependable such that their curve in a magnetic field is very predictable. If this were not true then our early color television sets in the '50's just wouldn't have worked well. We needed to be certain that those electrons would hit their target phosphor while under acceleration regardless of starting velocity. In the case of the Color Cathode Ray Tubes the screen (anode) is positively biased to about 15kV (some are much higher). As the electrons leave the cathode (heater, emitter or gun) their velocity is slightly increased by a nearby grid that they pass through, then as they get closer to the anode (passing through the yoke coils) they are deflected to strike a particular point on the screen. That deflection is reliable.

Nevertheless, I believe you were the one that stated the average velocity of the Ag-O-Cs emitted electrons. So, even if we want to use the velocity with time inclusive as a means to factor the radius, you will still be faced with a bell curve of probable curls that will (with the B strength) dictate the geometry of your structures. Please don't take my arguments as negative feedback, I am just including my perspectives in case they have a bearing in some way that can save on unforeseen losses related to expensive epataxial processes.

Back in the 80's when I was helping to design and build Epitaxial Reactors we did not have a vertical deposition constraint because our chambers allowed full volume process flow. However there is a UV mask development process that is generally 2D. There are a lot of different deposition processes available these days. That e-beam evaporation looks interesting Wink

You have twice suggested that I start some other thread for some reason, perhaps I misunderstood the purpose of this thread?

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Any advance on Curlatron. Going once.
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Just a further thought on hypersonic aircraft (Curlatron) technology will
take the concept of "air breathing" planes to a new level they
would work on both Mars and Venus as well as earth and would come mighty
close to orbital speed. (Curlatronic) technology would appear to be
especially apt on Venus although it might use electromagnets instead of
permanent ones otherwise the latter would have to be cooled so that the
'curry point' is not exceeded. Letting my imagination really rip, giant masers
can beam microwaves from the surface of Venus to the colder reaches of
outer space to provide the heat for (Curlatec) to work there and to slowly
cool Venus.

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Well Phil, you know where to find me if you need anything. But I doubt I'll still be around here 5 years from now when it finally sinks in as to what I was trying to help you with.

Best Wishes on your R & D.

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@Harvey,

Please do not take offence from my words.

If you could add a bit more to your explanation I might be able to understand what you see.

Perhaps you could send me a diagram via email.

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Charlie suggested ambionic but it is already in use.
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Laughing Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil
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Curlatech and Curlatron are free, Curlatronic is a pulse magnetic healing company.
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Please do not take offence from my words.

If you could add a bit more to your explanation I might be able to understand what you see.

Perhaps you could send me a diagram via email.

Regards

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No offense taken. My suggestion is only that, a suggestion. So no diagram is necessary. You have the formulas now for calculating the radius of the electron arc. Use them to see what you will need for IC chip size cells. I look forward to your results.

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Hardcastle,

How old are u?

(just to be clear and unambiguous, i mean in terms of earth years as measured and regulated since about 1550 i believe)

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He claims to be a youngster of 54. How old are you?
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Trim,

He 'sounds' much much youger- must be the Aussie rules football in him.

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Gone. Curlatron it is Seldous only gets the banana skin I afraid because I had to taste to make sure It hadn't gone rotten. If its any consolation it was really delicious one of the best bananas I have tasted in years. Laughing
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Hardcastle, [Trim-only by association],

sounds real s**t mate (add patronising aussi accent to the 'mate' comment). Confused

never in all my bourne supremacy days have i heard such bull for the name of a new technology product/idea/technique/device.

Best of luck. Embarassed (and no-not bitter mine didn't win thro- actually i thought Cellarray was better formate, but i think ur device theory is not an array as such, but more a disolve of a wafer resolution- but hey, wot do i no- nowt)

(I can only think its a downunder phenomenon) Rolling Eyes

Hear Ye, Hear Ye, Here Ye; Its official, watch as ur energy bills curl downwards with the new, techo future that is;- CURLATRON...........................WOW.

(come to think of it- it couldn't actually curl downwards due to gravitational forces acting on the release velocity of the electron, so therefore it would be an elipse- so apologies all round to all three of u)
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@Chrisbis,

Is that a thumbs down'

@Trim

Is it a done deal or is it still open?
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Well if you are to much of a cheapskate to offer me a decent bribe than you can only expect to come in the top four.
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Clue-

Caesar.................lions.......................christians.................(not a salad in sight!) Mr. Green

What thinks u sir Question
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Trim,

I offered to eat the banana whilst it was still mostly green!!

Now i wouldn't slip off a well timed and position roeskin if begged me for my copywritten Atothermic. HUH. Wink
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Well if you want for fourth prize I maybe be able to fix you up with a rampant eight foot tall male kangaroo. Twisted Evil
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@Harvey, I always had the CORRECT formula for electron radius, so I do not NOW need to calculate anything. Send me a diagram and a proper description of your theory and I will happily respond, if not then stop giving me insulting advice.


I assure you Phil, I am not trying to insult you, I am trying to solidify the geometry you intend to send to a foundry. I may have missed something, but according to my calculations each of your cells would need to be at least 16 millimeters in size to allow the curl to occur for an electron moving at the velocity of (your figure) 100km/s in a B field of (my guess from available values) 7 Teslas. I predicate this on the drawings that you provided to me showing a complete U-turn of the particle as it approaches the bias plate. Since the Larmor radius would be 8.12 mm under these conditions I can only assume that you intend to increase the B field to values presently not available in order to reduce the size to your posted values.

If I have missed something (other than charge repulsion) then please clarify. Additionally, please note that I am not discussing any theory of my own here, I am discussing 100 year old physics and how they apply to your theory.

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Trim,

well i would be his manager/promoter i suppose- they make brill fighting boxers,
and could always come in as a pouch for my plumbing tools- cheers mat^e.
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Well if he is that useful I will keep him myself and send you the used teabag.
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