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Coffee only me- greater stimulas u c. (and more taste)

thanx all the same old chap. nite
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Sat May 02, 2009 1:47 am PostPost subject:
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Sat May 02, 2009 10:02 am PostPost subject:
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You really are misinformed.

Radius = (electron velocity x electron mass) / (electron charge x mag field)

So for 100,000 x 9.109E-31 / 1.6E-19 x 1T we get 0.000000569m

Which is 0.5um


Yep, I squared the velocity. My mistake.
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What you could do is give me some advice / help on the fabrication issue.

You obviously have some knowledge on that front and I have very little.


Actually your probably better off speaking with the actual engineers that will be doing the work. I don't have near enough information from you to consult on your final fabrication. Perhaps these guys could help.

http://www.roguevalleymicro.com/evaporatedmetals.html

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Thanks for that link, it looks very interesting. i'll send them an email.

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Sat May 02, 2009 3:57 pm PostPost subject:
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Marshall Savage put forward a plan about living on the tropical oceans using large artificial islands powered by a device called an OTEC which it was planned would pump cold water form the depths and by combining it with hot water on the surface generate power, fresh water and nutrients for plankton and fish. Using a Curlatron instead would generate a lot more energy and the colder exhaust from a heat pump could act as a condenser for low pressure hot water to manufacture fresh water, the nutrients would have to be pumped up if needed.
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Sat May 02, 2009 10:23 pm PostPost subject:
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Poor ecology then eh TRim.
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Poor ecology then eh TRim.


Pardon? Whats poor ecology the Savage plan was quite clever The part of the plan I disagreed with was his insistence on using 'seament' to build his islands instead of 'bioplastics' the 'seament' was supposed to be solid like seashells not like the soft 'fur' you can get on some kettles.
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Sun May 03, 2009 12:04 am PostPost subject:
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It seems Curlatron was a name used in the 1950's for heated hair curlers.
But I am pretty sure it can still be trademarked or if not can be brought for a song.
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Sun May 03, 2009 11:04 am PostPost subject:
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I can only get a trace of Curlatron on Ebay.

Curlitron
Curlutron

Nothing on Metacrawler.
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Its also someones blog page title;-

http://keeneweb.org/curlatron

Nowt on Atothermic. I could copyright it or web page index it? Hmmmm.
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I am not worried in the least about the blog
and the Curlatron curlers are fifty years
out of date so are collector items on Ebay
A fall back name of Curlitron or Curlutron
feels more solid then Atothermic but a
good solid name based on ambient power
would still have a dog's chance.

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Trim,

I know next to nowt about Hardcastle's theory- i can't remember seeing any sketch, article or really incisive description of it here - but please correct me if im wrong and show me where so i can study it, fellow Brit.

But, i guess that it is to do with the magnetic removal and control of an single electron (one at a time) thats travelling very fast already (orbital peripheral speed), so thats down to Atomic level almost? Couple that with the thermionic vibration effect used?
Atothermic or Atothermion or Atothermionic. Just a thought Trim.
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Sun May 03, 2009 2:56 pm PostPost subject:
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Can't have Atothermionic because-

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Atothermion all good tho. Mr. Green
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May have a conflict on pronunciation and poss identity issues with Curlutron as;-

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If you google Curled Ballisitic Thermionics about the third entry down you get this

http://www.phys.boun.edu.tr/description.html

Curletron is also virgin.

Curlytron is about poker hands . Wink

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...........and Curly used to be in the Eastenders soap.

and we have some of the chocolate ones in the fridge.
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i didn't get that, i got This

or Next one down?
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How fascinating, its amazing what you will come across in google,'Wolfram Alpha' claims to be even better I can't wait.

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Phil you have been very quiet lately.I hope you are having a nice break and haven't caught swine flu.
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Forgive me for my ignorance but what exactly is the type of company you are looking for? Ic wafer maker plasma and/or chemical depositors I have been googling away but I am too ignorant to know if I have hit a possible jackpot or not. Roll on Wolfram Alpha for intelligent searching. The trouble with the Steorn website is that it is past its sell by date. I went to the 'Kinetica non demo' full of hope to see a working Orbo and check it out with my own eyes and the expense and trouble they took over it mount a perspex version in a large box on a transparent table with 4 or 5 independent cameras to show it 24/7 for over a week live on the web and of course high powered lights, those damn lights. Steorn of course claimed the greenhouse effect overheated the delicate bearings. But since then nothing so one by one the more optimists leave forum and trolls and cynics dominate. Still at least it means I can be champion last poster.






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http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:CCw1489izRMJ:www.see.ed.ac.uk/~amg/labcap.ps+fabrication+wafers&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a

Firefox needed?

Googling China wafer foundries, UK wafer foundries etc seems interesting but do you want wafer foundries?

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