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Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:58 pm PostPost subject:
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pdf ? please send me link about it


I think this is the PDF Harvey was talking about:
http://www.ospmm.org/whipmag/pdf/OC_motor_012708.pdf
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Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:20 pm PostPost subject:
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OC have you updated the PDF with the new information on measurements?
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Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:52 pm PostPost subject:
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OC have you updated the PDF with the new information on measurements?


Yadaraf has coordinated some updates at least as recently as May or June (when MADPROF was getting started on WhipMag II).
http://fizzx.com/viewtopic.php?p=3658#3658

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"RE: OC_Motor_xxxxxx.PDF (Yada)
The original author has agreed to make minor revisions to the log document in those areas where there were previously questionable. Comments are welcome.
http://www.ospmm.org/whipmag/pdf/OC_motor_012708.pdf "
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Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:27 pm PostPost subject:
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My old friend CATV will be registered here after some days He promissed this to day He speack very good eglish language is imprompt from OC MPMM too:roll:
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imprompt? Confused
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Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:46 am PostPost subject:
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Harvey wrote:
imprompt? Confused

impressed - sorry again Embarassed

(Thanks to Axle about http://translate.google.com/translate_t#)
Hello, obviously I will often use this Bulgarian-English dictionary. Thanks to the dictionary will be easier to communicate.

I mean impressed

I read a PDF Thanks ! Yes in some posts In PDF I was the name Omnibus sad. Is this user here?
How are you? Is there anything new in the development of research on the device?
I also know about the site of Dsimanek I do not like it because I think he speaks off.
Sometimes I also think that OS MPMM is a local phenomenon.
I must say I want itself Al to try to make another device
So at least will prove to the world that is very capable person.
Is A chemical analysis of the substance of stator?
I do not know what to say. This machine is a feat.
Looks fantastic.
Even I can not convince people around you that it is spinning.
I have a few friends, and along it they became even less. In Bulgaria, I mean:)))For the third time will tell what I think.
Like I, as it has microscopic changes in diameter
a stator They are caused by interactions of magnets while attracting/repulsing - while turning the wheel and rollers
Because of these pressures and strain, stator pulsed as human heart Al demonstrated that how precisely reactivated this process with synchronization rotors and stator…
Maybe this pitch /strain And collapse causes thermal processes in body of stator. As rotor spinning pump heat from ambient air and
and it scattered again. This suction / ejection of heat is perhaps caused by properties of polymers which I only presume that…))
I do not know if miss clearly say what I think

I have and another idea
1 it is possible magnets which Al used to be a radioactive?
2It is possible while a rotor spinning to accumulate a on the surface of the stator to collect electrostatic charges that interact with the magnetic field and cause its rotation
I hope, not to be very angry that I try to explain our reasons with no other options with magnets
Escuse me if I as some old woman mke only blabla bla as some grand ma Smile))
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Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:14 am PostPost subject:
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I have no conversations with Omnibus myself, but I think Al and OC did at Steorn. I sense there may have been some words there. I see some posts over at overunity.com from an Omnibus.

1. Radio active magnets: Generally radiate in all directions, no real mechanism for directional advantage in the WhiPMag

2. This was discussed and may be occuring to a small degree. However, the device works during conditions counterproductive to static charge. i.e. damp humid weather. Also, we could not account for the energy required to power the rotor even by triboelectric means not to mention air friction.

All possible explanations are welcome. Especially any that we have missed.

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Omnibus would not be welcomed here by me or Al.

If you wish to communicate with him, I recommend you do it on the overunity.com forum.

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Not! I would not be like comunicate with Omnibus too.I have a reason - he is most nervous.
I am glad to known that N2 - hipothese - about static elektryciti was in diskus any time few months ago
I began another cause to thinking Rolling Eyes
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Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:42 pm PostPost subject:
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Dear friends, May be I am deep wrong but I think which it is not another reason to OC MPMM work At this moment I not see anybody another posibling to relizate OC MPMMwhitout a understanding a sound and resonance and .some like a "rubber paradox" Yes OC MPMM is a heat engine and another nothing .
My friends from BG was not coming hereI do not why But never mine This is not a big problem.
Dear Alsetolackin ,HAve some possibling for You to replicate OC MPMM from You?
What is a unseeing for us ?Explane efect how it is posible better simple When/if You hawe a Time.
I will try with this idea .
If it is have this would be greath
"The hands remember al uniwerse,but brane only is help us for discovering some from it"
For me it is imposible but I would be like to see OC MPMM any time or replicate it The last is more possible in next 2-3 years or months.
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Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:39 am PostPost subject:
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Al will have to answer the details; But he has the makings of two working assemblies.

How many of the parts from one are needed for the other I am not certain.

The discussion of sound and harmonics has been touched on. You will no doubt find posts here regarding the 5th harmonic.

The 'Rubber Paradox' I am familiar with is found in this document:
http://www.cifor.cgiar.org/publications/pdf_files/farmers.pdf

Perhaps there is another paradox you could elaborate on?

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Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:45 pm PostPost subject:
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Hi:)))
Dear Friends
I would be like to show this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPNU2vniUIc&feature=related Some proceses but not elektomagetic sourse made in peripheria of OC MPMM
I am glad to hear for sucess of Madrof Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
In this moment My old friend known for You as Omnibus is again in BG phisic forum - http://clubs.dir.bg/showthreaded.php?Board=Phisics&Number=1949493866&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&part= as ЩШ I pleased him to help me to understand some about OC MPMM but he not naswered me.
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Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:26 pm PostPost subject:
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This is a normal thing in motor windings. The current in the wire produces magnetic fields that interact with each other. So the interaction is either recursive or the opposite, canceling. That is why they are normally shellac'd to keep them from moving.
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Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:35 pm PostPost subject:
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Thanks
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Smile))

the another my love is music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUYnMuc2yRY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnI1r2hKRzE&feature=related

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Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:03 pm PostPost subject:
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Hi Smile))
Axle, gratulation for best photos!
I have a question :"....Some time ago I found a fantastic program called FGHTY. This program makes analysis of all parameter types on magnetic systems, so I decided to analyze all the configurations of magnetic systems in the magnetic motors research. I found that some systems definitively didn't work, others were difficult to repeat, and a few others contained good ideas.
Then I found the Peter Harris Miller PHMI theory. Then, I decided to analyze the system, and see the force profile on the moving magnets: THE REST IS HISTORY!
...." this text portion is from:http://www.magneticperpetualmotionmachine.com/

what is this "Peter Harris Miller PHMI theory" may be this-http://jcmax.pbwiki.com/SpinningDipoles
thanks for all answers
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:31 am PostPost subject:
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That site is an obvious 'Ad Sense' ploy to get money. The site is operated by 'Harris.Now' of Great Britain and the text is Rhetoric to get discussion and future clicks. The person(s) probably found the high hit rate associated with Yirka's video, stole it, and thought they could cash in on it the way you see. Shouldn't the PHMI be PHMT?

I don't think jcmax has anything to do with this, where do you see any connection?

The fewer people that go to that site the better. To save you a trip, all you will see there is a copy of Yirka's posted 'first video' and the text Racho already shows here. Other than that, its just filled up with a bunch of Ads and comments. The 'Read More' link jumps to an unrelated page regarding 'cut' magnets and the flux degradation associated with cutting them. I don't think I missed anything and I certainly was not impressed. Rolling Eyes

ETA. Oh, and one other point. The cite posts your city when you make a comment. So it is phishing as well.
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:12 am PostPost subject:
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The stuff posted does not follow what I crudely measure also... it does not follow the whipmag..
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:51 pm PostPost subject:
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O.K.
I am from Bourgas- south-east BG at the Black see not very far from one litle town with about 2000 years history Nessebar (Mesambrius}
Today i Have one month Here.Between Did You known- In old Rome the Emperor was haved a unicum spetiall room with continuosly rotating floor?!
I am very glad which I am here. When I receive my sallary , I buy tools, and materials and prepare to make experiments under my understanding of Whipmag .This is slow process because ...Salaryes in BG are extremly high.
But nothing .Step by step I work .as watching all in WEB which is relewant with OC MPMM from Alsetolackin.
I love to travel (Germany , Russia,Letuwa, Siberia, Chesh, Romania Ungaria, Turkey and India ) Now I am very sik and kan not to travel aniwere. maj be more than a 2 years.But when I be in healtlh again some day I wil go to travel again:)))
Esxcuse me that so rare I hawe new Ideas but i slowly think I am not yang man
I like musik, technic and the childrens.
I so would be glad one day some (iven I) get to replicate OC MPMM and will be take to my l;earners to watch how the OC MPMM is working as vision, as principle, as prespective and devise.I hope this day will come soon:))))
Yes! And I have all which is in my possiblities to help for this replication. Smile Smile
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:25 am PostPost subject:
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Did You known- In old Rome the Emperor was haved a unicum spetiall room with continuosly rotating floor?!


That sounds like the Octoganal Room of the Domus Aurea where Nero would entertain guests on the rotating floor with singing and lyre-playing. Wink
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WOw thank You very much I am glad to known some new about this room.
Harwey, You wrote this:
"The 'Rubber Paradox' I am familiar with is found in this document:
http://www.cifor.cgiar.org/publications/pdf_files/farmers.pdf "
but I do not find nothing about rubbes paradox this site May be some wrong in link it is has?
Can You help me to find it? I found some about Indonesian market but not undestand where is writting about rubbers paradox
To day Iwas thinking about Bessler In Bessler's times it is haven't a rubber, but it was have a human hair/horse tail, wood, water may be some another more.May be when a wood is in water it's properties generaly was changed.....Who known?....
In our(bulgaian tales and greek miths) it is hawe a story about Orpheus
He was changed the world and makes a mirakles with his songs...
P.S. We bulgarians are not russians not greeks, not turkey, not makedonians,not romanians.We are difeerent kultures and our native is very far on east behind Azowishe sea, near Awgan and Hindukush a lot time ago.
In indian scripts it is have a data about bulgarians 1000 years ago which was helped to build a Taj MAhal
Sory about a so long and may be not so nessesery appendix:)))
some new in the worlds of computers:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/personal_supercomputing.html
and some old from the worlds of Intalec.com (indian sugestion for magnetic engines)
Chapter 1 , site 23 on this link:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/PJKbook.pdf
I was remember for this picture whenn I was read and translate from english to bulgarian and russian(the russian is my second powerknown language ) this site:
http://jcmax.pbwiki.com/SpinningDipoles
(now I try to make english language at its position but this will be hard and dificult target) (In Bulgaria people which known good russian are very small)
Good night friends. Do not me laugh please.! Laughing
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Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:43 pm PostPost subject:
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Racho,

I think I know now what my next computer will be. Very Happy
That link to the PJKbook was a real find. What a fantastic compilation of prior works, ideas, concepts and projects. Alot can be learned from the results of all those countless hours invested in such research and development. Thanx Wink

As regards the "Rubber Paradox": This is an econmic paradox. It is a situation driven by supply and demand in a recursive situation where money is also supplied and demanded. The demand for money is higher than the demand for rubber so more farms are grown even when where the demand is dropping. Normal ecomics would dictate that the new farms would not be grown because the cost outweighs the profit when the supply is already glutted. As a result, the workers reduce their worth thus lowering the cost just to have a small percentage of the whole. It is a counter intuitive situation that should not have occured.

As regards Bessler having access to rubber products we don't know exactly, however:

Mesoamericans:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/284/5422/1988

Mayans and Aztecs:
http://pslc.ws/macrog/kidsmac/rubber.htm

Spider Silk:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080531074913.htm

1600 B.C.
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1999/rubber.html


Can you elaborate on how you heard of the "rubber paradox"?

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Here are all which I known about rubber effect One man with nickname ZORNIK was explained me the rubber effect This man is very cool in phizic sciense He have his own theory “Vacuum theory”
rubber paradox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBXL93984cQ


Yes about rubber paradox I am ready with picture here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/3084134671/?addedcomment=1#comment72157610764191732
in resume : This picture explained how by Zornik theory(it is so diffikult to translate for me ) the picture above explained ablique the Alsetolackin's words:" OC MPMM is self eating devise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes! to ruber exzample are dangerous a sunny shines, ozone in atmosphere, etc.etc. Thej destroyed it in long time.But By Zornik exzactli
rubber paradox explained why is the life possible( in strogly scientifical mine)
Energy needing for working this rubber (picture abowe)pump is "litle" than energy total which we can obnserwate in the outward (on the exit) This is not some abnormal and wizardchip, but this is real processes.
these are the conclusions from the work of devise in my picture under a Zornik ideas for VAcuum theory
May be I axplained all these "greath" conclusions in very stuppyd and infatile method and may be not on the his plase. But this is real process.
I hope that You dear fiends will be not banned me .
I just try to understand OC MPMM and help me with by this method as kreate a design of devise which can explane all about OC MPMM step by step
May be I will explane and full Zornik Theory (If he gave wrihgts to make this (not whitout Your help)
I think that Zornik theory is not obstructive and it is passed perfect to all we can obserwate whenn we thinking about OC MPMM.In nature it is have and another processes about which we will be thinking may be later .First I will be designed a devise from my picture and when if his work explane some in mine which I speacking here and now we( I) will be forward to move:)))
Very very dificult is analiz of OC MPMM OC MPMM include many processes but we will be known all step by step may be not without the Zornik "vacuum theory"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOR_jq9M53c
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:15 pm PostPost subject:
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Did You Known this people?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DvPLFX5gwA
here is his last post:


evyllinc (3 weeks ago:
Okay, my update is:
I don't really have an update yet.
Working on a model (complete with diagrams)
Not much spare time at the moment due to working to support my wife and 2 kids.

WooHoo Obama!!!!!!!!
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Always look at what other videos are posted.
Hope it is real, yet what else is posted makes me question it. "We will see" is a good saying in this field..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DvPLFX5gwA
here is his last post:


Yes. You will see my comment in the 8th month ago section. Of course that CyberBully Desertpile got his nose into all of that and I had some dialog with him.

This is a perfect example of why we don't disassemble working systems. He took it apart and can't get it working again. (of course it may be a hoax).

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Sorry, posted in the wrong place, Embarassed
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqsyl51Jca4
what this mean?
The newest link posted in "report From the front" from Lostcauseswith wind mashine is veri interesting Very interesting most interesting may be it have key mean to replicate OC MPMM
It gave me new idea I wil resume in next 2-3 days
Sorry abot my stuppid thinkneses
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Here is some more on Mr. Reed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt5z8L4LBJE

Mr. Reed would be 72 now. Why do you think we don't see his 18 year old technology in use? Crying or Very sad
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How can I to contact with inventor? beautifull thing is this aouto with electric and old aku's
some similar i this may be:
http://www.rexresearch.com/yildiz/yildiz.htm
This man is from Bursa - Turkey his firm is "Ocean Starr" He is long time worked
in Germany He use an old akumulators too.
But I nothibg another don't known
Harewy I still do not known why these incredible inventions arenot in using.another mans was say to me some month's ago it is have a mafia - energetic mafia.
I do not known is the mafia real or these are only stuppid words.
If it is have a mafia this will be very bad for many peoples with progresive and deep thingking.
Please Harwey if it is possyble help me to make contact with a man in Your post I want to make a elektric car Embarassed
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