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Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:49 pm PostPost subject:
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OC That was some good work by jcmax.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:20 pm PostPost subject:
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Looking it over with using the dipole method he did there again will be a variation in real verses the simulation. One assumes the poles are of equal amounts again, yet when in real testing material differences can interfere.

Yet take the whip mag original, set up with the NN magnet SS magnet: arrangement and using two fixed stators one should now be able to see how I could get very close to my original long rundown times.
Think of the positions in between the magnets also and how they would work.
Of course I did not have an adjustable rotor, so I could set this up to a even closer timing. Yet playing with the timing and positions of two stators in the original configuration I got very close. Such as the configuration of the rotor with two properly places stators can get a very small magnetic drag on a rotor.

The Pendulum Smot is the why of that.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:56 pm PostPost subject:
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The MAP, (Magnetically Assisted Pendulum) produces about 10 times the energy needed to flip the rotor magnet. Anyone who had done the math will see that.

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Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:34 pm PostPost subject:
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http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/Nebojsa_Simin_Energy_Surplus_Phenomenon.pdf
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:54 pm PostPost subject:
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Magluvin wrote:
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/Nebojsa_Simin_Energy_Surplus_Phenomenon.pdf


Are you thinking about combining a Milkovic device with a Magnetically Assisted Pendulum? Sounds like a lot of work.
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:59 pm PostPost subject:
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Im seeing a lot of things that resonance seems to be key. Whether it be low freq or high. And the possibility that the droop in this other device may enhance harvey's.
Like this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpEYlmsMmyw&feature=channel_page
He is pulsing a 50 ft piece of 16ga wire at 30 some khz. he is only sending a pulse to one end of the coil. The other end is like a tesla coil, open ended. No ground connections. The signal is 5v and the coil has 250v across it at the resonant freq. Tesla had a device that when he pulsed a coil assy with a cap that was charged, that the coil would go into self oscillation.
But can the 250v in that coil, 50ft 16ga, 14 ga, what ever, be used to reproduce the 5 v signal to re kick the coil?

The Milkovic, if the hammer weight was on the end of the pendulum itself and was lifted to start pendulum action, then was allowed to slam into a block of concrete at the bottom of the swing, the amount of slam power would not equal the amount of pounding that his device does over the period of time it takes the pen to stop. And resetting his device take less energy.
But is there more energy expended in the single hammer action than it takes to throw a lil tap to the pen to keep its height on each swing cycle?

So now for your question OC. Yea, I really think that hammer action has enough power to turn that magnet on harveys pen to reset the cycle, with some left over.Mr. Green Turning the magnet would be the best solution for a continuous running cycle.

It may be a lot of work. But I think it has some merit.
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:17 am PostPost subject:
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Sorry that would be mhz not khz
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:55 pm PostPost subject:
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I'm afraid the coil is only storing the sum of all the pulses without any real current available. I have experimented with simulators of tank circuits designed to resonate at 60Hz with near zero resistance. The circuit builds to over 400,000V and then slowly 'un-builds' (degrades) back to zero and restarts the build again. The real circuit, with real resistances would result in about 4KV when properly simulated. In my design, I had phase shifted a ring of 360 of these circuits each by 1 so that the final circuit was back in phase to add to the first. When the resistance is near zero as in super conductors, the device would serve as an A/C storage system to allow energy to be delivered during peak demand periods and stored during off peak periods. Such systems could be added at substation locations. It is a solid state version of a mechanical flywheel.

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Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:02 pm PostPost subject:
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Is this not a different kind of resonance we are talking about? How long of an antenna would you need to operate at 60hz?
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Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:36 am PostPost subject:
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Is this not a different kind of resonance we are talking about? How long of an antenna would you need to operate at 60hz?
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They are both forms of inductive resonance. The reason an inductor resonates is because it has internal capacitance. There will be a frequency at which it will resonate between its inductance and internal capacitance. We can force a resonant mode by including a capacitor. The wavelength of a frequency is found by using the wavelength formula : λ = 299793000 / f

So for a 60Hz signal, the wavelength is 299793000 / 60 or 299793 x 10 / 60 = 4.99655 x 10^6 meters. 5 million meters Very Happy How far is the moon again? LOL - A quarter wave antenna would still be 1,250,000 meters! Needless to say, we are not looking to use 60Hz as an RF power transmission frequency. Wink Many antenna's incorporate a load coil to help keep the length of the antenna in a reasonable and manageable range.

Resonant tanks can be used for wired systems as I mentioned in my previous post. The video you referenced also was a wired configuration.

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Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:52 am PostPost subject:
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Hey Harv

Do you believe that any of these guys, Tesla, Moray, etc, actually built the energy harnessing free energy devices that are written about? It seems that many ideas of the time were ignored, or suppressed. But info is still out there. Do many not investigate due to the obvious thought that if it were true, then it would be in use today?
I see that some are looking into these things, like the vid posted above, and then just nothing, like the path was stopped. And It doesnt look like they found obvious answers that negated their plight, or they would be just as inclined to post those results.
So what are we all here for? Are some who are here, only here to keep an eye on the others, to insert negativity toward positive paths? Or worse?


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Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:06 pm PostPost subject:
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Do you believe that any of these guys, Tesla, Moray, etc, actually built the energy harnessing free energy devices that are written about? It seems that many ideas of the time were ignored, or suppressed. But info is still out there. Do many not investigate due to the obvious thought that if it were true, then it would be in use today?
I see that some are looking into these things, like the vid posted above, and then just nothing, like the path was stopped. And It doesnt look like they found obvious answers that negated their plight, or they would be just as inclined to post those results.
So what are we all here for? Are some who are here, only here to keep an eye on the others, to insert negativity toward positive paths? Or worse?


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I am certain that each of these, Tesla, Moray, Marks, Schwartz etc. have tapped into an energy source that none of them fully understands. The energy is a lower voltage, higher frequency than one might expect and may not even be a true electricity as we are used to it. It may be an entirely different form of energy that can influence electrical devices to function as though it were basic electricity. In Marks case, he had a special inverter made that would work with the 6kHz frequency he was using. In Tesla's case, he made his own A/C converter. In Moray's case he thought he was picking up RF, so he made a multi-frequency sympathetic receiver which he then rectified and fed into a slower oscillator to power the lamps, motors and heating devices. I cannot comment on how Schwartz does his ERR, but it is similar to Marks and Tesla.

IMHO, all of these devices could drain the energy required to keep our weather systems working properly. So it would not surprise me to find out that a divine power of some kind road blocked these endeavors. It may be possible, that the reason our weather is so messed up right now is related to the HAARP interference. Of course that is just conjecture on my part.

I read somewhere that the Schumann Cavity could only contain about 10MW of energy based on the capacitance calculations. I would like to get that one resolved for sure - it seems waaaay tooo low.

As far as busy work goes, yes, I do think there are programs in place to keep guys like us busy on dead end projects. You can tell which ones are dead ends, because there is no resistance from them and sometimes they encourage dead end endeavors. Whereas the projects that have potential will be vehemently opposed and even sabotaged.

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Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:58 pm PostPost subject:
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Hey Harvey
Thinking about Teslas car, he had an ac induction motor. Can these motors work at high frequencies, or would the cycles have to be divided down? Im thinkin his receiver may have been a direct source to the motor and the 12v bat was used for other things.
If ac ind. motors cant be run at high freq, then maybe the circuit had multiple tuned freq, 60hz apart of which would produce a 60hz harmonic. Do you think an ac ind motor would have to be a tuned part of the circuit? Just pickin yer brain

Are there freq of signals out there that we dont use that are produced naturally that can be captured from the air via antenna?

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Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:11 pm PostPost subject:
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Harvey,

Have you been following the YOG (Yu Oscillating Generator) story over at OU.com and EF? It looks like an inverted M.A.P. Here's his latest video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq5r08eqgsk

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Harvey,

Have you been following the YOG (Yu Oscillating Generator) story over at OU.com and EF? It looks like an inverted M.A.P. Here's his latest video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq5r08eqgsk

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I have not been following this, no. But this is almost exactly the same as my rig in principle, but inverted as you say. In both of our designs we are extracting energy from the field by converting the MP to GP.

It should be easy for anyone with intelligence to see, that once the weight reaches its maximum height (which in his case could be enhanced by building a tall enough stand for the servo arm to become vertical - ground pointing) that all of that GP could be extracted while bringing the arm back to its starting point.

His servo is slow, but you and I discussed 'Hang Time' in depth, so I think you understand why this works. The servo serves two purposes, 1) Turn the magnet around. 2) Lock the magnet so that it does not twist when approaching the stator field.

We can readily see the scalability of the device. Gravity does not care how much a counter weight weighs, it will accelerate 2 million tons just as easily and just as fast as a feather.

Here I will digress. Imagine another machine where there are two 1 ton weights attached to an arm with a central pivot. Because the system is balanced it would be very easy (provided the bearings are of highest quality) to turn the arm on its pivot even with the force of a single finger. Now suppose one of the weights was movable and could slide toward the center. And suppose you got the system turning and when the movable weight would pass TDC it would drop by 1 unit of measure, a small unit. And on each swing, back and forth it would drop this way until the weight that is not able to slide on the arm barely swings above horizontal. At this point, a brake locks the arm with the movable weight below the horizontal, and that weight is allowed to slide back to its starting point. Would such a device have more output than input?

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Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:08 pm PostPost subject:
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put?

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Harv, thanks for Your new 2 vids Cool
look here:
http://www.edn.com/article/509129-Water_leak_detector_uses_9V_batteries.php#reference
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:06 am PostPost subject:
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Hi Racho,

Not sure what to think of that link - was it for a specific application or just for general use or ???
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Harvey wrote:
Hi Racho,

Not sure what to think of that link - was it for a specific application or just for general use or ???

general use:)))
Harvey , INKOMP is working:))) I just began to try to replication it I began to search for steel EI type
look in my flikr galery and ask any what You would be like to known. INKOMP is bulgarian invention His autor is one tallented person which name Valeri Ivanov.
I ma ready to answer to Your questions
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:21 pm PostPost subject:
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bano,

What was the link to your gallery again? Thanx.
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:33 pm PostPost subject:
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What was the link to your gallery again? Thanx.


Harvey, friend these are files I was loss two pictures with Magnetical viscozity and with Sean Bubles very sorry but these foles here are " a live"Smile))
INKOMP is secret tenology not for study and Steorn is secret tehnology - not for study
But, I note that both sistems are most userable when they produced heat!!!!! both tehnology "shooting the magnetic pole of the permanent magnets in space ower them
both system are some devices for magnetic pole squaring

to much similaryti .too much.!!!


http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4707706345/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4673754989/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4636149081/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4572453522/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4527072344/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4458031349/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4449001734/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4445890416/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4436317513/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4438420321/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4433219983/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4432084190/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24993218@N07/4442373224/in/photostream
and in the last: Harv How do you think is posible both devices to use humidyti as the washmashine of the boy which cleaned its car without an electryc from the home just started the device and thesystem was working very goood while the water in the chamber was finished?
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nd thesystem was working very goood while the water in the chamber was finished?



thanks for newest vid Harvey:))))
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